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Nicoya Hecht and Grey Hecht on Understanding The Foundational Aspects Of Water In Our Health
We’re talking about foundational health. This is a topic that’s very near and dear to me because my belief is that if we do the foundational things, everything else that we’re trying to do in our life becomes easier. The way I equate this is back when I used to play football. What we would do in practice is our coach would call Wednesday fun dose day. It was the abbreviation he had for fundamentals or maybe it was baseball, either way. We did a bunch of fundamentals in football and baseball. The idea being that in sports, we practice doing the fundamental moves over and over to the point of mastery. We do that so that when we’re in the game, we’ve worked those pathways so much, the game becomes easy, the game becomes effortless. That’s what foundational health is all about.
It’s about mastering the basics so that everything else you want to achieve in your life becomes easier and effortless. It becomes another part of the game, part of the fun. Without these foundational health aspects, we’re not able to show up in the game and perform at 100% because we might be thinking about, “Am I supposed to go left or?” and then you get tackled. We’re talking about not just foundational health but additionally, we’re talking about probably the most essential thing we could ever consume as human beings and that’s water. That sounds extreme, but this is by weight 70% to 80% of who we are. I’ll tell you the story of how I first got interested in water because it’s funny. I used to embody this mentality and I slowly but surely leaving behind that I was invincible. I could drink water straight out of the tap and I was going to have no problems. I was going to keep doing that forever and it was going to be awesome because I used to do that. I would see people afraid of drinking tap water and be like, “You guys can’t handle the tap water?”
A turn of events happened and I started making kombucha. I promise I’ll connect these all. If you’re not familiar with what kombucha is, it’s that fizzy drink that everybody’s hyped up about at the store. It’s this fermented drink that has a living culture of bacteria and yeast in it that’s fermenting tea and sugar into a delicious beverage. It’s not only tasty and refreshing but it’s also good for your health. I got into making kombucha and to do it right, I got a book on how to make kombucha. One of the first things you learn about making kombucha is you have to buy filtered water. If you were to brew kombucha and use tap water, it would kill all of the living cultures in kombucha and you would kill everything that you are trying to grow in there. I had this a-ha moment in making kombucha of thinking about if the tap water is killing all the living organisms in this tasty beverage that I’m trying to make, what is it doing inside of my body?
That was a moment of revelation saying, “Why would I put this toxic liquid into my body that’s coming from the tap if it’s killing these living organisms?” It was that a-ha click moment in my mind of having a deeper thought about where my water’s coming from and how it’s interacting in my body. I’ve gotten to the point where I’m thinking about how can we possibly source water from Idaho because apparently what they’ve got going on in Idaho is pretty awesome. That translates to who our guests are. Our guests are Nicoya and Grey Hecht. They’re the Founders and Owners of a company called Rising Springs. They’re taking this pristine water from a natural spring in Idaho and bringing it to the world. What they’re about is not just water quality but bigger than that.
They’re thinking about their carbon footprint, how they’re packaging and water conservation on a much higher level than their little aquifer up at Idaho. As you read, you’ll start to get a sense for a little bit deeper into why the quality of water matters. The emphasis being on if you want to master the fundamentals and the foundations of health, it’s integral to take a deep look into where the water you’re drinking is coming from and how you can improve that in your day-to-day. As you improve the water quality of water in your life, you’re going to notice significant improvements in your health and your overall ease and enjoyment of life. Please read on as this is so integral to who we are as human beings. Nicoya and Grey have this very fun lightheartedness to the wonderful work that they do. Please welcome Nicoya and Grey.
Nicoya and Grey, welcome to the show. How are you doing?
We’re wonderful, thank you.
Where are you calling from?
We’ve got our Oregon homies here but you own a natural spring out in Idaho.
That is in Pine, Idaho.
What I would love to hear and share with our community first is how did you come to own natural spring and then we can go into a deep dive on why we should even care about the quality of water that’s coming out of there.
My background was in real estate and farming. I grew up in Northern Idaho, in the Idaho Panhandle. I had heard of this spring that was previously in the marketplace. It was locally and regionally renowned. Through a friend of our friend in the natural food space, we heard that it was available back in the market. We went and visited it and it has a masonry spring house built with sacred geometry proportions. You step into this steam-filled room and the spring is bubbling out of this rock like a sword in the stone style. You look in the fissure and its crystals right there at the mouth of the fissure and water are coming out. It was an incredibly moving moment and overwhelmed me, meeting this ancient water that hasn’t seen any human conditions or any contaminants and it’s emerging at a solid rate. It was that meeting moment where we went from being like, “This is noble to be redirected in life to steward and make this source available to people.”
I was reading through your website, it’s coming out at 138 degrees.The whole world’s water used to be absorbable for human health and global health. The level to which we have degraded that most vital resource is beyond negligent and myopic. We are really poisoning ourselves. Click To Tweet
It’s 136 to 138.
That’s hot usually for a spring.
That’s part of the depth. Idaho has more geothermal sources in the rest of the US put together and that’s partially a product of its geology walls. The Idaho batholith, this giant and enormous granite shields, protects all of the infiltrations. These springs are bubbling up from an enormous depth. Some say it’s the deepest spring sources in North America through these fissures and that granite. That pressure and depth were creating that heat.
They’re rising from 2.2 miles deep and two miles of that journey is through the actual quartz crystals.
What’s the significance of that in your eyes of coming through this epic journey through the Earth, through the quartz crystals and then out into the world?
From the quartz crystals, it picks up the silica. The water Rising Springs has bioavailable silica, which is great for hair, skin and nails but is a building block for all the connective tissue in our body. That picks up along the way. It also comes out with alkalinity of 9.4, so it’s high alkalinity. The major part of the journey and the story of the water is that it is protected from the batholith. The water itself is 16,000 years old and pure to parts per quadrillion. That’s a million billion. Being the purest tested water that we know of in the United States, it’s been protected for 16,000 years and then comes up under its own pressure through these 2.2 miles to arise on the surface. It’s a gift of water the way nature intended it to be.
This is great because where my mind is going is making this distinction between natural spring water and filtered water. We want to go into why filtered water might not be the best quality and natural may be better.
Importance Of Quality Water: The water from Rising Springs is protected from the batholith. The water itself is 16,000 years old and pure to parts per quadrillion.
We have three sources of water that we drink. We drink tap water, filtered water and spring water, and then any combination of that in bottles as well. What filters are doing is taking out any contaminants that the water has come in contact with. There’s this old adage that you can’t clean dirty water. What they’re trying to do is to remove all of the contaminants that the water has come in contact with environmentally in different ways: by reverse osmosis and by different filtrations. What it also does is remove anything beneficial in the water at the same time. At the end of the day, you’re getting this dead water where some of the contaminants, most of the time not all of them, had been removed. Any beneficial minerals have been removed as well.
You said dead water, what is the impact in your view between dead water and maybe this filtered water and something that’s coming right out of the earth, right out of the spring?
The spring not only has the minerals that it gets from whatever the geology is around the source, in our case, the batholith and the crystals. It has the energy and the structure that is found in deep spring sources and it’s all intact. It’s pure, it’s live and it’s whole. There’s no processing, no filtering and no changing of it. It has mineral benefits, the structural benefits and what people see as the energetic benefits.
Including a PC electric charge, this is measurable, so it is carrying a charge. We’ve only been with the source for a few years and we still have a hard time understanding the impact of structured water on human health. We are trying to be clearer about our science and what we possess and then reaching out to communities and letting the scientists and health advocates tell us what we have. It’s that community effort is how we hope to evolve because there are many facets to this water that are miraculous or marvelous that we don’t think we can cover all that ground.
As we go on, it sounds amazing, but I love for the audience to know your background and then who you are. Maybe you can share a little bit about what led you to all this and what’s the real story. Where did you study, where you are from, how you met and the whole thing. That would be awesome.
Nicoya and I met in eighth grade in a class of ten in upcountry, Maui. We went to high school together. I’d grown up in Northern Idaho before and moved over there with my mom. We started farming and getting more into national systems effectively and spent a lot of time in the backside of Maui in the freshwater pools back there. I’m starting to become fascinated with freshwater ecology as well. We moved to Southern Oregon with our young family and became a home builder and started scaling some farming efforts. I joined an environmental group here. I got a degree in Environmental Biology from Southern Oregon University and joined an environmental group called KS Wild at the time. They were at the forefront of pushing back on redwood logging and extreme stream degradation and its impact on salmons and other fish.
That led me to join the Waterkeeper Alliance, which is the world’s largest grassroots water advocacy organization. We have now 330 chapters in 40 countries around the globe. The reason that the organization attracted me was mostly that it is truly grassroots. It empowers an individual who has standing in his watershed to advocate for the health and well-being of that water against any pollution or any taking. I compare it to the Lorax effectively where one person in your community has to go to that waterway and say, “I have inherent right to stand up for this water and nobody is allowed to pollute it, regardless of their theory.” It’s taking from the commons. That spoke to me as an American and as a human in a powerful way. I have been working in that regard since. What’s fascinating about this spring, and Nicoya and I both experienced this early on the process, was that the purity is almost archetypal. The whole world’s water used to be absorbable for human health and global health. The level to which we have degraded that most vital resource is beyond negligence and myopic. We are poisoning ourselves. This spring source being of its ultimate purity without any human contaminants is special or holy in context of that.If we do the foundational things, everything else that we're trying to do in our life becomes easier. Click To Tweet
I’ll tell you a little bit of my background in terms of how I became a water fanatic. It was on this epic journey of trying to understand the human body and what’s important and what’s not. I had this a-ha moment of looking at water as the most abundant resource in the human body by a lot. It tends to be 60% to 70% by weight. To me, that was this moment that clicked towards like this is probably important. I won’t bore you with the details of what I got into after that but essentially, I did a deep dive into understanding the importance of this to our body and our health.
In my experience, it’s one of the most overlooked aspects of health and misunderstood, probably because it seems so simple. I don’t know if you have had any of that experience. It seems like this thing you’re advocating for is so simple and so hard to distinguish between good and bad because it’s all clear. Your water can be polluted and it could be crystal clear. That’s one of the most challenging aspects of what you do, which is trying to get people excited about something that seems so simple, but it can be so profound in terms of shifting someone’s health.
What’s interesting is there’s so much focus on food these days, not eating processed food and where does your food come from. There’s very little out there that focus on water, yet we’re made up of water primarily. As we try not to eat processed food, why wouldn’t we also then want to drink non-processed water?
My question is, Nicoya, there’s Evian, Fiji water, bottled waters, 365 waters. What is good, what’s bad and what do you recommend to our audience?
I can tell you what I do, which is I look for a clean source of water, Rising Springs being the cleanest source that I know. When that’s available, that’s what I think is the optimum for my personal health because it has all of the benefits in it and it doesn’t have the contaminants in it. After that, you’re looking for a source that’s not contaminated and that has benefits of health in it. Different minerals, if you’re a fan of alkalinity, those types of things. What is important for everybody to know is where the water you drink comes from? How is it treated and handled? How is it packaged or brought to you? Is it coming through pipes? Is it bottled? How does it get to you?
With every source that you look up, whether it’s one of the bottles of water that you mentioned or whether you’re filtering through the top, where did that water originated? How is the treatment plant treating it? What are they adding to it to try and take out those impurities? What filters is it going through? How does it get to you and what are you doing afterwards? It’s such a personal thing. I don’t have a brand to recommend or a treatment to recommend. As much as people are asking themselves like, “Where does this carrot come from? Where’s it grown? Does it have pesticides? Is it organic?” People need to ask those same questions about their water.
That’s a very nice analogy because you’re totally right when you say that there is this intense focus on the health world of now we’re very concerned about where the food is coming from, where it’s starting to take root. Now, adding on that next layer of thinking about where everything we put in our body is coming from and how it may or may not be contaminated by what it’s been through. You mentioned the source and you also mentioned in there bottled water versus X, Y and Z. You did a very interesting thing with how you’re shipping and packaging your water to reduce the carbon footprint. Do you want to explain that to everyone?
Importance Of Quality Water: Stimulating the conversation about water is so important not only to be able to have a conduit to drinking them but also for learning.
When I met the sources, there was the plastic PET bottling equipment in the plants. We felt that we were not going to repeat that distribution process because we already knew where plastics were heading. We were sure that we were going to go into the glass because that had been my experience. I didn’t know this space at all. I was like, “We’ll just go back in the glass.” We felt like there was a latent consumer group out there that had already known about this water and thought it was special. As a mission statement, we said, “We’re just going to be a conduit where we’re trying to connect the conscious consumer that wants this product with it in the least impactful way possible.” Doing my homework and starting to look at the different technologies out there and the carbon footprint of these activities. I was stunned to see how carbon-intensive glass was, from manufacturing to shipping it empty up to our remote location, then turn it around and send it back down the hill and having it dance through distribution centers to get on shelves and also the heavy capital lift to put it on those shelves.
Instead, we had seen these bag-in-boxes like boxed wines, which is a bag inside the box. The box is 100% recycled and recyclable and that plastic is the least material to transport water with the lowest carbon footprint that we can get that we know of. We spent over a year digging through all the companies in the US. I talked to probably a dozen plastic manufacturers trying to find a bioresin and started understanding how inefficient bioresin is because they can’t be recycled and industrial compostable materials that never make it to that point. Our bag in the box, which is sent directly to the consumer and a membership to your door allows whoever in the lower 48 to access our spring.
Probably even receiving it in three to five days from order to your door in the lowest carbon footprint package we can come up with. We’re super committed. We review every quarter a couple of our contacts to see if any new plastic technologies have emerged. We are hyper committed to reducing our footprint. We’ve offset all our carbon every year with a Seagrass Initiative where we work with a nonprofit to plant seagrass, which is the highest carbon-sequestering technique out there. That’s our attempt at mitigating our impact, which is inherent in our activity.
A couple of other things to add onto what Grey said is that it’s all the BPs free, the plastic liner. We also test regularly to make sure there’s no leakage from the plastics and that has come out to be super clean. There’s no leakage or anything like that from the plastics. We also created a system of upcycling, so that our consumers can send us back the bags and then we can then be the conduit for them to be upcycled into synthetic biodiesel or 3D printing print.
I read on the website that you are sending the upcycle bags to 3D printers that can then be recreated into new consumer products.
We need to update that. That was the original thought. We needed a tonnage of that to work with these different companies that do that. Because we don’t have that quantity, that’s something we have that we can do in the future if needed. Right now, we are working with the Boise to turn it into synthetic biodiesel. The plastic spout is upcycled into synthetic biodiesel. That way, the entire package is either recyclable or upcyclabale.
I want to go a little bit deeper into holistic health in general with you. Before we jumped ship, is there anything else in your experience with Rising Springs and water in general, that you feel inspired to share with our community and the world that we might want to be interested in knowing about?Your water can be crystal clear but it could be polluted. Click To Tweet
Starting the discussion with friends and family members about what water we drink, “Where does it come from? Do you supplement your water with spring water? Do you filter your water out of the tap? What do you use?” That conversation needs to start happening. I’m so glad it’s happening more and more on podcasts and some of the seminar type places that Grey and I have attended. They are heavily focused on food. Let’s also have that conversation about water. Stimulating the conversation is so important and realizing that these sources like Rising Springs are incredibly valuable not only to be able to have a conduit to drinking them but also for learning.
Grey was talking about that structured water. Gerald Pollack is studying this fourth phase of water where it’s this crystalline structure. There are the three phases we know about, then this fourth phase of this structured water, which has such importance for biological function and cell communication. There’s still so much to learn. That part excites me. Let’s have a conversation and what do you know about water? As you said, it’s so weird. It all looks the same but it’s not.
What are the price points? Do you ship to people in the United States?
Let me address that in the context of what you asked. This journey we’re on and it is that because we had no idea that this endeavor would unfold this way and where it’s leading us. The experience of people also not having access to this spring source because of its price point is almost a great roll in and because of the inherent struggle of moving this water around you, it’s hard for this to be anyone’s daily drinker for the most part at $3 a liter or $10 for our ten-liter delivery to your door. Most of that price is the logistics involved. It’s a low margin activity that is taxed along the way, especially because we’re shipping the heaviest thing. From our consumers and from people this radiates, it is trying to bring awareness to your local spring source and your local water source. The struggle with it is that many Americans and people around the world have to access any clean water and how inherently bizarre that is. We are fascinated by being put in the position of being spokespersons for that by selling spring water. It’s an interesting juxtaposition and me trying not to catalog my water activism with my financial endeavor has been a fascinating experience for me.
It does a perfect segue in terms of talking about water activism and the other stuff that you have gotten into in terms of owning a farm in Costa Rica and how committed you are to these other aspects of health and well-being. How long ago did you end up getting a farm in Costa Rica?
I’ve been working on that farm for as long as I’ve been working on Rising Springs. That’s a few years old. It was two contiguous parcels that were a cow pasture. The previous farming activities down there were chemical-intensive. They were either ranching tea production, which is a monoculture heavy sheeting on non-native tree or melon production, which was super chemical-intensive and some rice. I had practice farming in Hawaii and this has the same commitment that we have to feed people healthy food.
Everyone deserves access to nontoxic healthy food and the world around it deserves not to be polluted by farming activities. The only way to bring that price down is through scale. I had farmed in marginal properties because that’s usually all these organic farmers. Access to premium farmland is usually subsidized or capital intensive. We already understand tropical ag and we tried to launch it at more scale. We’ve worked with Gaia Herbs and we strolled into the largest German importer produce or European importer produce or melon crops. The fundamental premise is trying to bring access to food down. We want to feed our neighbors the healthiest food possible at a fair price point.
Importance Of Quality Water: Anytime you can bring in an antioxidant, it’s helping to combat and reverse us being exposed to more things in our environment that are causing the breakdown of our system.
The watering on your farm, how do you get the water there or what do you use there?
Why we selected that site was it was the first time I ever had access to flat bottomland farming, where you get so much more efficient. It’s in alluvial plain so we’re pumping groundwater with a few months of bone dry weather. There’s a shallow water table, so you’re pumping in only ten feet. We’re replanting riparian buffers, increasing shade, focusing on perennial crops to retain and replenish the water table and regenerates that cycle, whereas everything else has been grazed or logged bare and has more sun.
You have an aquifer I bet or something.
It’s the low point in the watershed. It’s the biggest watershed on the peninsula and we’re farming in that alluvial plain, which has its pros and cons as well. It’s great for pre-production, as long as we can try to buffer that activity and transition towards a more perennial shape culture, everyone should win in the long run.
All you’re getting at is essentially you’re starting to farm more intelligently in my word. Our group over here in LA, we ended up at a documentary film called The Biggest Little Farm. You probably can’t access it where you are yet but when it comes out, we’ll forward it to you. It’s this couple that moved onto this barren piece of old farmland that was dead. They came in with the commitment, “We’re going to rebuild this as a biodynamic organic farm where all of these different aspects of nature are working together to create this rich soil and to create this piece of land that is the healthier and more integrated environment.” They’re also bringing the best quality food to market. What’s amazing is the guy used to be a documentary filmmaker for Animal Planet.
The work that they’re doing in terms of education is incredible. They are bringing awareness to how important it is to start thinking about the way we cultivate food in this way. An example story from the movie is they were having this issue where there is this snail infestation in their orchard. All their trees have thousands of snails on them and it was killing their trees. The guy, John, asks his wife, “Can we use chemicals?” She goes, “No, we can’t use anything.” They’re were researching and figuring out how to deal with this pest. What they figured out was if you put the ducks in the field, the ducks would eat the snails. There’s this epic scene of these ducks eating down on snails.
Tens of thousands of snails are being eaten. It’s gross but it makes sense. Are you doing something similar?Soil is right there with water. We have the two most basic functions, and we polluted it beyond belief. Click To Tweet
All those integrated farming techniques and Integrated Pest Management, IPM, they call it is all trying to figure out how to keep these systems in balance with non-chemical techniques. Running fowl through your orchards is a fabulous technique if it works and livestock on the land. What Sean has said earlier, it was just soil. Soil is right there with water. We have the two most basic functions and we polluted it beyond belief. Soil health and its ability to generate abundance, food, sequester carbon and create the microbiome are all fundamental life building blocks that we have severely diminished their capacity to run. Farming is soil regeneration and then trying to take those nutrients like our water and put them back in an absorbable state into our bodies.
Sean’s laughing at me because this is what I sit over here and talk to him about. The first two things I got him into first was water and then the second was the microbiome. We partnered with a company called Mother Earth Labs that creates a park, they call The Gift. What they’ve done is they take the most nutrient-rich soil they could find in New Mexico and they’ve turned it into a supplement that you can ingest because all the food that we’re eating is being grown in nutrient-depleted soil. We’re finding creative ways to supplement as farming, then comes back around and catches up with shifting technique to replenish the soil and do all of that. Sean’s laughing at me because it’s everything I talked to him about.
I’m getting better. It definitely works. Do you have any data on your water of what it does for people like myself or the brain injury or heart health and stuff that you can talk about?
We don’t have a lot right now. We would love to do more testing. The testing is expensive. One side note is that silica is being studied to help treat Alzheimer’s, to help remove heavy metals from the brain from Alzheimer’s and also to strengthen heart health. Those are two things you could look into. What we have is the data on the benefits. It’s high and bioavailable silica. It’s got a pH of 9.4 and that comes from minerals. Its high alkalinity is coming from minerals, not manufactured. It’s got a redox potential of negative 155 to negative 140 millivolts. It has the ability to work as an antioxidant in your body.
When you’re talking about redox potential, that means it’s acting as an antioxidant in the system.
Yes, but a true one. There’s potential and then there’s active is what we’ve been learning. There’s redox potential and then its inability to work in your body.
Rising Springs has the potential to act as an antioxidant. What’s interesting is most waters out there or are oxidizing. They’re breaking down your systems whereas having a redox potential means it’s not oxidizing and has the ability to be antioxidant.
Importance Of Quality Water: Clean water and clean soil are aligned with human health.
I’ve never even heard about that in terms of thinking about water before. Why is that important to the human body like having something that can act as an antioxidant?
I don’t have the ability to answer that succinctly.
What we try to do is make sure we don’t wander anywhere outside our expertise and we don’t make claims. That’s partially our responsibility as a brand representative. We pretty much stick to what we have and what we know in our water. Oxidization is universally degradation. That’s why everything you’re protecting from oxidizing. The human body is under the same pressure of oxidization. Antioxidants are pushing back against that effect. That’s my terrible layman’s explanation.
Doesn’t it help remove free radicals?
Yeah, it will help move free radicals. The way I like to think about oxidation is if you think about the way what happens to iron under oxidation is it turns into rust and it decomposes and it breaks down. It’s the same with us as human beings. I don’t know the deep science behind it, but I know that oxidation is related to this breakdown of the system. Anytime you can bring in an antioxidant, it’s helping to combat and reversed us being exposed to more and more things in our environment that are causing the breakdown of our system. It’s important though because I’ve never heard that in water before.
There are a lot of manufactured waters out there that have that claim to be antioxidant. The problem is when you manufacture it, as soon as it hits the air, it loses that potential. With Rising Springs, what we’re finding is it maintains that potential. That potential is stable for up to 24 hours. We’ve been testing our water with a university in the United States that has a mass spec machine. It has the ability to test down to parts per quadrillion, one of the only in the US. We’ve been doing a variety of testing with them and the scientist that’s been working with us is blown away by how stable the redox potential is in Rising Springs. We want to do more research on that for sure. All this research, there’s so much to do and so much to learn.
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I’m trying to be. I want to be, but there are many researchers who have taken deep dive on specifics that I’m trying to learn from. As a company and a brand, we’re doing a lot of research on our source and we’re getting that information back. We redid the test to parts per quadrillion. The purity is such the differentiator for Rising Springs. It’s unmatched. We haven’t heard of any other source being tested down to parts per quadrillion. There is so much to learn.
What’s your personal experience been since owning this spring and being able to essentially drink it 24/7 if you wanted to?
My story is that a few years ago, my hair was thinning. It was not growing past a certain point. It didn’t have the vitality it had, I like long hair. About a year into drinking it, I noticed that it was coming back. I could see the difference. People started commenting and now it grows all the time. It’s lustrous and it’s full, not to my own pint but I’m blown away by that. What blows my mind is that I can have something on the outside that I can see the visual effects on. It makes me excited about what’s happening on the inside that I can’t see. My understanding is that it would be from the silica. The effects it’s having on all of that connective tissue on maybe the heart and the brain is awesome.
I drink more water than I ever did. Partly, it’s interesting because everybody should test their water at room temperature. Cold masks the taste of the impurities in the water. That’s why restaurants serve it with ice. That’s why people drink it out of the tap or the refrigerator. People go, “I don’t drink that much water. I’m not drawn to it.” It might be your body telling you that the source you’ve chosen is not good for you and what’s in it is not good for you. What I notice is my body craves Rising Springs and I follow what my body craves. That’s what we get back from a lot of our customers like, “I’m drinking so much more water now.” It also helps with reflux. That’s one of the things that we can claim. A number of people have gotten back to us saying how much it’s helped with reflux and that’s the alkalinity in the water.
Nicoya, I have two kids, nine and twelve, both girls and I love them. How are you going to educate our children out there? There’s got to be a program of getting your water in the schools, starting them at a young age. I know it’s a big question, a big topic that everyone’s talking about now. How would you approach sixth-graders across America and say, “Here’s what you need to be doing?”
This is a good question that we should fill in some more information. We are a natural mineral supplement. That means a few things. We’re a natural mineral supplement as opposed to bottled water. Most bottled waters, anything you see on the shelves because of state regulations have to be disinfected or processed. We’re able to leave our water in its whole natural state and not treat it in any way because we package it as a natural mineral supplement. The water also has naturally occurring fluoride in it. Fluoridation is a hot topic. Municipalities treat their water with fluoride. It’s the industrial waste byproduct of the aluminum or the fertilizer industry. The fluoride that’s in Rising Springs is from the fluoride crystal.
Fluoride is a negatively charged ion. It wants to partner with a positively charged ion in Rising Springs that’s calcium or sodium, so calcium fluoride or sodium fluoride. What is incredibly important and we have data to back up, I hope to make a lot of this available on the website as soon as we can with the small team that we have, is that it’s important that the company keeps that fluoride. If fluoride is in water with contaminants and toxins, that’s much more harmful to your health than a naturally occurring fluoride, but then a fluoride that is in a body of water that’s pure because there’s nothing to contaminate. As we talk about schools and education, we are restricted because the fluoride has a serving suggestion of three eight-ounce cups a day or 24 ounces a day.
Beyond that, it’s your choice how much you drink. We couldn’t make it available in schools because of that restriction. What I would teach in schools and what is important is children are aware of. We’re aware of the water cycle as far as it rains, it goes into the earth, etc., but what affects the water. How is it handled? How is it treated? There is environmental toxicity in the sky that affects the rain. That’s all a bummer but we need to be aware of it and our children need to be aware of it so they can be aware not only of how water is treated and advocating for water but also what is the water source that they put in their body.
You nailed it right there. Helping to bring awareness to this is the biggest factor because once more and more people become aware and they start taking action in their own lives, it ultimately cascades into a larger shift in how we’re thinking about sourcing water and everything. I’ve got one more question for both of you. It’s a question we ask everyone on the show because we love putting people on the spot and you can each answer. What is your inspiration?
To be incredibly honest in this moment, my inspiration is the source. When I go sit in that source house, it’s one of the most spiritual places I have ever physically been in. I think this ancient water has all the information. Before coming on this interview, I sat for five minutes in silence, just seeing myself sitting in that source house with the question of like, “What do you want to share on this show?” Grey and I call ourselves the whole team. We call ourselves the conduits for this water. I do feel that. For now, when I am looking for inspiration, I look to the water source and the water that’s rising.
I want to sit in that source right now.
My inspiration is the inherent wisdom of nature and natural systems and trying to compel those systems without fully understanding them. My resonant, alignment and understanding that clean water and clean soil are aligned with human health and that nature has it all figured out. I’m constantly stunned, inspired and awestruck by that system and wisdom that’s inherent in plants and natural systems. In short of anything else, step outside and being in the sun continues to make all of this exciting and doable.
I’m with you on that one. It’s one of my biggest inspiration. Being out in nature on a hike or watching everything worked together. If you’ll let everybody know where they can find your source and how they can get some of this in their home right away.
It’s super easy, RisingSpringsSource.com. They’ll give you a bunch of information and a link to buy. We’re direct to consumer, so we shipped directly to your doors within a couple of days. We have a re-occurring membership because we feel like it’s something that should be a part of your health regime. Having it show up on your doorstep every month or every couple of weeks and being able to count on that is important.
Thank you. If you’re out there reading, please take this as a call to action to start thinking more deeply about where your water is coming from. If you’re not able to source from Rising Springs as our lovely guests have pointed out, start thinking about where’s your water coming from and how can you increase its quality because it is so vital to all of our health and the health of our environment. Thank you very much for coming on and sharing your stories. Until next time, we’ll see you.
Thank you so much for having us.
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About Nicoya Hecht
Nicoya has committed her life to motherhood, the study of midwifery, philanthropy, and more recently, to developing sustainable brands. Nicoya’s journey as a mother gave her the patience and dedication needed to support other women during their own paths to motherhood. Nicoya has served as board president for Sangham Foundation for 4 years, leading the organization to donate over charities supporting water conservation, children, and underserved communities.
Nicoya began in sustainable goods with Nectar Eco Boutique, sourcing natural fibre clothing for consumers in Ashland, Oregon. She has since spearheaded the brand development of Rising Springs, a packaged water company launched in 2015 that stewards a rare artesian spring source in Idaho. Nicoya manages the brand aesthetic with a finely curated feel, from content creation to social media, influencer relationships, partnerships, public relations, and events. Born in Costa Rica, and living in Idaho, Hawaii, and Oregon throughout her life, Nicoya is dedicated to the mission of protecting the world’s water resources and improving water quality for all.
About Grey Hecht
Grey has always been unfiltered. He was never afraid of sharing his opinions and vulnerability with others, even when they diverged from popular opinion (maybe especially then). In the early years of our relationship.
Now after 22 years of marriage, this quality is what I love most about him and about others I meet in the world. I owe a lot to Grey for paving the way and supporting and believing in me. I am proud to stand by a man who is so truly himself in the world and who can be counted on to speak the truth, offer his honest opinions and reflections.